Michelle Obama said on her podcast that she’s been having trouble sleeping and has been feeling depressed. “Spiritually, these are not … fulfilling times,” she said. Obama is seen here in December 2019.

FILE – In this Dec. 12, 2019, file photo, former first lady Michelle Obama speaks during an event for Obama Foundation in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Seeking to unite Democrats, Joe Biden has raced to line up supporters ranging from progressive icon Bernie Sanders to former President Barack Obama, whose administration sometimes irked liberals. But the person with the most influence may be Michelle Obama. (AP Photo/Vincent Thian, File)